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1 hour ago, lostinfear said:

Yikes. Looks like u lack of understanding about market price and stability stuff can make RO fun too.

Go on then.

Ah yes, go right to my understanding of the market. I am TOTALLY NOT one of those billionaire zeny hoarders on the server who makes a ridiculous amount of more zeny just buying things lower and then selling them way higher when the time is just right. /s

Please do explain to me how the % drop rate of this one particular item is going to have any notable effect on the market. 

• Does the price of the Hero Enchant Ticket drop? Sure, probably. Is it going to tank the value? No lol. You could double the drop rate and it wouldn't cut the value is half. If you think that's the outcome you've never taken a probability and statistics class.
• Does anyone actually think that farming Hero Enchant Tickets is an efficient method for making zeny? I doubt it, you'd be ignoring Sarah's/HTF rotations which is guaranteed zeny.
• Do people find farming this particular item fun? Yeah probably a minority group, still has no impact on the market lol.

I'm starting to assume you think that some sort of trend is going to happen if we go this route. We're talking about one specific change, don't get all scared that we're going to voice our thoughts on every item in existence.

The market argument is mute and anyone that thinks the Hero Enchant Ticket is a large portion of the market refuses to even entertain any thought except their own.

On 1/28/2022 at 12:11 PM, SonicBreno said:

New classes are coming with the role of giving AP to party members achieving certain buffs wouldn't be a problem, this change would only discouraged the participance of those other jobs on the team play and heavily focus on DPS.

Not only that would allow for everyone to just go back to Dummies and rebuff theirselves with no consequences afterwards.

Honestly, that's just more boring and unecessary work for Lunar.

I will preface this with, I agree this sounds like unnecessary work for Lunar. This particular issue is annoying at worst.

I think this is an overemphasis on the impact of this change should it happen. Parties are still going to be class locked, people are still going to ask for AP. Building 150 AP doesn't happen as fast as the party moves, there's always going to be a need for AP giving classes if parties want to prioritize uptime on crucial skills.

There's already a heavy focus on DPS, that's never going to change. The party lock system was effort to combat that meta but the playerbase still does it. That's a community/meta issue that stems from turd design philosophy from RO. That's never going to be fixed unless we're willing to change RO at the core and that's probably never happening.

1 hour ago, lostinfear said:

Hero LT is a endstage gear, so it would be better not to increase ticket drop rate.

No one force u to choose hero LT.

If we increase ticket drop rate, how about increase chance to get armor reform LT and reduce the cost of weapon reform LT so all new player can get endstage gear hero LT like u??

You're making an irrelevant comparison which derails the point of the topic. Just because people want to raise the % drop rate of one item doesn't mean that everything else needs to be raised or that they want everything else raised too. 

How does choosing an item have anything to do with having an opinion or suggestion for that item? Your argument there is that because we aren't forced to do it that he doesn't get to have a suggestion/opinion on the matter? Yikes, that's almost similar to saying you aren't forced to play RO so just leave if you don't like it.

Hero LT is a end-stage gear already gated behind custom content and then we gate other parts of its upgrade process behind more custom content. It is redundant and boring.

To get the armor modification boots, you have to get a somewhat competent group of people together and then farm fortessa content for a slim chance at the box. Then you have to spend like 1 billion zeny in value to upgrade it and grade it. 

• Armor Mod Box = RNG drop, tough custom content
• Upgrading, Grading = 1b Zeny (a lot of farming, if unlucky, even more)
• Farming enchant ticket at 0.05% and 0.25%  rates in an instance that you maybe run 3~5 times a day.
  • (Better than MVP card rates but let's not confuse the value to the player between MVP cards and the enchant ticket LMAO)
• Whatever the % chance of getting the mods you need on top of that.

Is this actually fun for you guys? Is anyone on this server confident enough to think the majority of the population actually thinks this is fun to do? Like actually ask the 100s of players here their on SMRO their opinion.

I agree with the suggestion it should be improved, I don't know what the numbers should be but it should be improved. It's just not fun looking at our current numbers. Not every little thing has to be a monotonous grind.

IMHO, it should be about fun.

Quick Bump for Quick Updates

EDIT: Also could someone move this to Helheim?

5/19/2020: No more hiatus but big overhaul to this guide. It's a bit too much work and don't feel like dropping the zeny to test out progression at different levels.

Table Of Contents

• 1 Prologue
• 2 IMPORTANT NOTES
• 3 Progression
• 4 Getting to End Game
• 5 DAMAGE REFERENCES
   

1 Prologue

You might be asking, "Why Ranger?" Let me tell you what Rangers are still good at. Rangers are the absolute king of being brain dead. I can't fathom how anyone could fuck this up.

No more talking about Sharp Shooting, only AIMED BOLT BABY.

I am also very conservative on how I play. I do NOT min max if it hurts quality of life gameplay.

TL;DR Is Aimed Bolt worth all the trouble in the current 17.2 Meta? Probably not, especially if you don't commit to endgame. I would say it is A rank along with Sura for Long Range DPS. With SS being GX and S being RK.

2 IMPORTANT NOTES FOR ENDGAMES

• This build is really meh until you can use the Ranger 2 Garment Costume stone (30% dmg) or grind the Automatic A Armour with Aimed Modules because Aimed Bolt has a dumb 1 second Fixed Cast Time.
• Note: Automatic Armour with Aimed Modules gives a shit ton of damage to Aimed Bolt so it feels really good. Bless 17.2
  • Ignis Cap + Illusion Boots with FCT Stone + Foxtail (OK)
  • Ignis Cap + Automatic Illusion Boot with FCT Stone (BETTER)
  • FFH(+14) + Temp Dex  + Foxtail (Really Good, this is what I am using because FUCK RNG)
  • FFH(+15) + Temp Dex (Best)
  • If you aren't using foxtail, then use Spiked Scarf in its place UNLESS you really need the 1 ASPD from Delicious Lolipop
     
• Patent Scarlet Dragon Leather Bow VS Edda Bio Lab Aiming Bow with EA3 and Enchant both +12. 
  • I haven't gotten to testing it just yet.
  • I would actually say that Aiming Bow is better if you want to hit your After Cast Delay easier. 
  • Patent Scarlet Dragon leather Bow is probably way better with 20 w/e race/type you want to kill /20 Boss enchant and is cheaper honestly.
     
• PING = sub 50 ms? NO? OK your ASPD stays at 191~193 and your After Cast Delay (ACD) stays at 80%
  • I promise you won't feel a difference because your ping and my ping BLOW, but if you really want to then yes 193 ASPD and 86% ACD will do higher DPS over time.
    • KEY WORDs: "over time" You name something that last more than a few seconds on Ragnarok LMAO. Pop your UNLIMINT and tell that MVP/Hell Difficulty to go suck one.
  • I promise no content on SMRO needs/require you to min-max your ACD
     
• RIGHT NOW? PROs/CONs
  • Yeah we're cheaper than RK and GX. 
  • Yeah it's actually pretty easy to get into parties. You carry at MVP instances if everyone is being lazy, and you pick off griefs/offscreen stuff that might pester your party in Fortessa Pit.
  • Yeah, you can farm in Fortessa Dungeon solo. You pretty much max screen range anything.
  • No, you do not live. Keep your distance, you will get one shot. Squishiest piece of crap in the game to be honest.
  • No, you don't handle swarms of mobs, this isn't sharp shooting.

3 Progression 

4 Getting to Endgame

5 Damage References

Refer to IMGUR Links for some Damage Pics

https://imgur.com/a/4u0xVt2 (Mid Game Gear)

https://imgur.com/a/Zz3kB6l (Improvements to Mid Game Gear)

https://imgur.com/a/2q08Afl (Automatic A Armour with Aimed Modules!, you will do less damage than me because you will be using After Cast Delay Module and not Ranged Force)

https://imgur.com/a/99mkDkh (People Who Have a Kiel see this, otherwise without a Kiel, probably like 400K per line due trying to fit in ACD on gear)

This is totally a zeny sink issue and not a zeny issue.

Please just give us something worth spending zeny on for the more end game orientated people.

Sold.

I think we can all admit that you can't just throw a random group of people together and do this content without going through a frustrating experience. I don't think it's particularly difficult thing to do either, it's just kind of "annoying content".

I hate to say it but I think we should take notes from typical MMORPGS today. Consistent mechanics that are telegraphed well. RO just isn't responsive enough of a game to have split second reactions that completely destroy the party, it just simply does not handle input fast enough for that. I can't think of a major MMORPG today that punishes that much without a proper telegraph.

W/e you do, I think it will be a good next step.

35 minutes ago, randomaccount said:

smells like NovaRO bait; from the name, to the overly specific and meaningless +15 argument, to not understanding why +7 could matter, to... I could go on for ever.

 

Where are my manners... What I meant to say was:

- Yes, retroactively making things harder is unfair. Just like 12 people making bank (even if just perceived and not backed up by any facts) while the rest of the server doesn't is unfair. Just like hyper inflation is stupid. Sometimes there is no pretty solution. And in my personal opinion Lunar picked the least bad solution. I would invite you to make a constructive suggestion.

- Agree, a minority speaking for the majority is problematic (as proven by nova lul). That's the point of the thread.

- I like how you seem to want to encourage different oppinions being voiced, only to shit on oppinions you don't agree with.

Right lump in there with the guy that imposes an artificial difficulty to the game just to milk his playerbase for more money.

Look, if OP wants the game to be more difficult, to put in more walls, all for  the sake of a longer lasting progression or challenge that's on him. I don't want that difficulty imposed on me end of the story. I wholeheartedly suggest that maybe as player that maybe OP should stop playing it the easy way.

Stop buying stuff off the market. Stop using the freebies we get from the server. Don't hard farm zeny at Thana 9 when it wasn't suppose to function like that (yay yay it got removed). Pick and choose, because if the game is easy its probably the way your going about it. These are just examples. Players don't have to do this but then they do and some how we end up in a discussion about taking things away or making things less available.

I'm not here to impose that easy stuff on players, the players have a choice to use that or not. However, when we start removing features, we start getting rid of this or that because it's too easy, or blah blah blah. In the latter, I barely get a choice when we do the latter, shits just gone. There's always this culture with nerfing I see in threads like this and it just isn't even good anymore.

Also I think Lunar is doing great and his pacing is fine. If people think shits happenings too fast, I advised taking the game a little slower for once.

I'm going to throw this out there.

I don't want a server that retroactively makes things harder on their players, it's unfair as fuck. Might as well just hop onto the bigger servers if that happens because what would be the difference. We need actual statistics on how many people can accomplish the content in 1-2 days. If it's a minority I'm not sure I see the problem, it's an even bigger problem if the minority speaks for the majority. 

Also what's this BS about 100% certs. I don't care if it only cost you a million zeny to +7, +7 is useless. Tell me how much zeny you sink going to +15 AND if you don't attempt to go that far then your opinion on the matter is weak.